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Post by Vicorva on Apr 10, 2009 14:23:32 GMT
Anyone up for a remake of Beacon of Hope? Webster actually asked me for this, and I thought about it and then said 'no'.
However, I say no to practically everything, no matter how hard I try, but eventually the good stuff gets through and I actually give things a chance.
So!
Here's how its gonna be. I'll remake Beacon of Hope (note: not rez and continue, remake).
And because it was very hard for me to mod, and it was particularly difficult when people dropped out, there'll be a few changes.
For one: you will each be inhabited by your own personal brand of evil or good. This will give you complete control over what your demons and angels ask of you.
Lights and Shades still cannot kill one another, only temporarily banish.
I will control the all-encompassing goods and evils- the big voices (darkness and light themselves) that control your personal demons and angels.
To prevent unfair teams as happened last time, I will ask that people play good characters as well as evil, and that some people sacrifice having super-powers in order to play a normal character. Those that can manage two or more characters, I am specifically counting on you guys to help me maintain fair numbers until some people start getting killed off.
The story will move on in stages more quickly, effecting large changes on the world around. Each post I make, I will give a time estimate; keep an eye on this so that your characters actually get some sleep. This means that, for those who want it, we can have more PvP.
...and, if Web will agree, I'd like him to co-host with me and help me to orchestrate events.
Now, if people are interested in this, I have a specific question:
Do we want the animal forms? Because I was wondering if perhaps in the place of animal form, the actual physical appearance of the characters change? I am happy either way, I just feel like the animal forms didn't add much last time.
Any suggestions/changes? Anything that was liked in the last RP that is felt could be added to? Or are we just completely not wanting this, and looking for something new?
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Post by Vicorva on Apr 10, 2009 18:48:25 GMT
*bump*
Also, I posted in Pax Argonia. Let's get that moving again, people!
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Post by webster52402 on Apr 10, 2009 19:07:05 GMT
You already know my answer here. I am more than willing to co host, and to make a Good character as well as Evil... Though Wilfric kind of blurred the line between Good and Evil, as I had meant him to. xD And I loved the Animal forms in Beacon. I was one of the few people that actually used it, to get away from a scene where I assassinated the guy that was going to give me information on the Council. That, and I had quite a few other plans that involved that delicious venom that dripped from those serpent's fangs... Removing a person's appearance with it would make it harder to disguise that they are Shade/Light to the general public and would kind of go against the 'forces behind the scenes' thing that the Shades and Lights were. I'd just stick with the Animal forms, rather than go Sith-esque on us. Now. I have a tornado to deal with, so don't be alarmed if I end up vanishing a while. Adios.
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Post by DarkNova50 on Apr 10, 2009 19:39:49 GMT
This sounds like a good idea to me, Illusionary. Personally, I really liked the original, but I don't think my character and I really ever meshed all that well.
Also, I am more than willing to make one of the average characters for this RP. Frankly, I think I'm able to get into the head of one of those characters more easily than one of the supa-charged characters anyway. Plus, we had a serious lack of those in the last iteration, I think.
So, in short: DarkNova50 approves!
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Post by FC4 on Apr 10, 2009 20:24:05 GMT
Don't change outward appearances. Like Web said, that eliminates the hiddenness aspect of the Shades and Lights, which was an aspect that while fizzling out with the whole 'I sense you' thing was still important.
I don't mind a remake. Lee will not feature though. PJ might, not sure.
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Post by Tom Bombadil on Apr 10, 2009 21:21:27 GMT
The idea sounds solid, but I agree with the two above: looking like everyone else is probably for the best, lest the general populace be...alerted. As for the animal shapes, well, they did seem rather out of place, but I'm still in favor of them. It has potential.
And I'm afraid none of my original characters that I used will be returning. Casca was one of my favorites, but I think I'll save him for another time. And I really fumbled with Yakel towards the end, there. Chan-Taka, though, I never got to use in the first place, so I might use her...maybe. But I do have a new character in mind for a non-chosen, and I might try to use Marinus for a chosen this time around.
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Post by Vrek on Apr 10, 2009 23:15:32 GMT
In my defense, I was planning on using my evil wizard guy's animal form pretty soon. He was gonna try to kill your good wizard guy, V-Mon, but it never made it that far. Despite my evil wizard guy being one of my favorite clearly evil guys, and my blind guy being one of my favorite odd characters, I think I might make up some new faces for it all.
Since each person is going to have their own shoulder-devils, does that mean the Good Guys vs Evil Guys aspect will fall apart, and everyone will work seperate of eachother, or can we still expect thw gangwars aspect?
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Post by Vicorva on Apr 11, 2009 9:05:30 GMT
Still exect the gang war feel, since the Big Voice that we heard last time will still be present, just controlled by me. Remember, you won't hear both voices- you only hear the light once you consciously decide to stand up against the dark. Heh, and you'd have struggled to kill Dorien Rune. He's my uberest, most favourite character ever. *cuddles*) I will be keeping Dorien Rune, the guy totally captures what I wanted for the (temporary) leader of the Lights. I may either remake or replace Lex- I got too bogged down in her struggle and confusion, and got a little confused myself. Anyway, glad you guys are in favour. If you can think of any improvements or something, please let me know!
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Post by Vrek on Apr 11, 2009 16:59:05 GMT
Well duh my evil wizard guy wouldn't have won. Even beyond uberness and favoritism, he's the central light character, and story important. Evil Wizard Guy would have tried and failed miserabley, and probably die. But if he lived past that big final battle part, he'd just be pissed, and probably break apart from the evil side when the Darkness Guy pissed him off next, and form his own side, in which he tries to use his undead guys to destroy everything.
I think that was actually my original plan for him, too. Funny, seeing how as I just brought all that up on the spot.
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Post by webster52402 on Apr 11, 2009 18:13:54 GMT
Well duh my evil wizard guy wouldn't have won. Even beyond uberness and favoritism, he's the central light character, and story important. Evil Wizard Guy would have tried and failed miserabley, and probably die. But if he lived past that big final battle part, he'd just be pissed, and probably break apart from the evil side when the Darkness Guy pissed him off next, and form his own side, in which he tries to use his undead guys to destroy everything. I think that was actually my original plan for him, too. Funny, seeing how as I just brought all that up on the spot. You just described what I had originally intended Wilfric to do. If the Darkness kept pushing him to do outright Evil rather than change the world as he wanted to do, he was going to break away from the Darkness and start his own little group, that were Shade-esque, and used rather underhanded technique, but always had Light origins... Sort of Blackguards. That, or stay with the Shades and destroy them from the inside, allowing himself to become a 'martyr' of sorts, giving his life to the Light to cut away the impurities of the world... I had many, many plans which were all shattered by this event or that event. xD
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Post by Vrek on Apr 11, 2009 18:17:12 GMT
Wow, so much for the Shades having the upperhand, huh? With so many unstables and traitors, I doubt they were have lasted much at all past the final battle thing.
How about some of us make some loyal evil guys next time, huh?
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Post by Chaos 303030 on Apr 11, 2009 18:20:52 GMT
I don't think it is in Evil's Nature to be loyal.
They all want power, they all want control. Thats a principal concept of evil.And they'll do anything to get what they want.
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Post by Tom Bombadil on Apr 11, 2009 19:00:09 GMT
Huh. Looks like there wasn't anyone really that dedicated. I was going to have Casca a bit...changed, after his resurrection. I had planned on trying to send assassins after DarkNova's character (nothing personal, ;D), then eventually the influence of the Darkness would either turn him into an obedient empty husk, or he would try to kill himself. Or have him get killed by an angry mob, something along those lines.
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Post by Vicorva on Apr 13, 2009 14:22:20 GMT
Yeah, the Darkness does steal your soul somewhat as you go along. The idea is that the more you let them have a hold over you, the more loyal you become. Breaking free would always be possible, of course.
Interesting, all this. That's one of the reasons I'm going in for individual voices this time. The darkness will essentially want the same things, but it gives you a little more freedom.
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Post by Vrek on Apr 13, 2009 16:04:46 GMT
But that would make it a war versus dependents versus independent, self-reliant people. Mentally it would be like meth-heads going against police officers.
Besides, there is such a thing as loyalty to a cause. Sure, no one would want to follow the shoulder-devil that's always threatening your mum, but believe it or not, some people actually want to see the whole world burn, often with good intentions. Take me for example, I hate capitalism, and people in general. If I can't rework our economy into something better, I'd rather just destroy a large fraction of the human race, so maybe the survivors could have a chance at building something better. If I had to deal with an asshole telling me what to do in order to accomplish that, I would.
And besides, evil's subjective, and power doesn't play by nice clear cut rules. Whenever power is gained, power tries to stay in power. Does that make every ruler evil? No. Take someone who abuses resources to steal an election, *coughbushcough* Does this make him entirely evil? No, just an idiot, I think. What about someone who is given power by his peers, like the Pope? Well, he's a Nazi who protected pedophiles and contributed to the AIDS epidemic, so yeah, I'd say he's an evil bastard.
Point is, some people are assholes themselves, and no one plays by the same game as everyone else. And druggies versus messiahs really won't work out well in the end.
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